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police4.6
04-06-2010, 01:29 PM
so i might be coming into contact with a fox soon that needs an engine and possibly a tranny? what is the most bang for your buck engine wise and same for transmission.. i dont plan on doing anything ridiculous, but if a 351 is not much more than a 302 and will fit in there perfectly i will most likely go that route... just feeling around for what everyone thinks.

and puskaric dont say i should do something ridiculous. :hail:

cwh19
04-06-2010, 02:51 PM
Get a complete early 351 longblock which you can get for cheap. Use the same intake and heads and get them port matched, longtubes and 3" exhaust. Then a 150 shot. 350whp easy for not much money.

somethingclever
04-07-2010, 09:02 AM
best bang for your buck is to start with an engine in good working order.....rebuilds are expensive weather you're talking SBF or BBF's.

94svtcobra
04-07-2010, 09:17 AM
buy a 351, throw a cam in it, summit racing vic jr intake bigger carb port heads, or find a cheap set of after market ones, it will make decent power, and you shouldnt have too much invested 2 grand tops,

n if u want more power, throw a cheap nitrous kit on it n pick up another 100 horse

94svtcobra
04-07-2010, 09:19 AM
n like colton said get some long tubes, used are pretty cheap, n just run 3 inch dumps with some dynomax bullets on em

94svtcobra
04-07-2010, 10:21 AM
strip the interior, n make it straight race car status, get some summit racing buckets

police4.6
04-07-2010, 02:46 PM
ha mike anything else you wanna add?

2001GTTT
04-07-2010, 07:30 PM
hes a ra tard

94svtcobra
04-07-2010, 07:35 PM
I am a genius

2001GTTT
04-07-2010, 07:36 PM
lol is that what mother puskaric tells you?

94svtcobra
04-07-2010, 07:40 PM
no, thats what nancy tells me

2001GTTT
04-07-2010, 07:45 PM
tell her to shush up!

scott5
04-07-2010, 10:07 PM
put a ls1 with a 6spd in it and never look back..

Cam and full exhaust you can be at 425rwhp add a set of used z06 heads (300 bucks) and you will be around 450rwhp or so.. Add a 150shot of NX and boom your around 550

94svtcobra
04-07-2010, 10:48 PM
shush up scott, only fags do the whole built ford tough with chevy stuff

police4.6
04-07-2010, 11:16 PM
shush up scott, only fags do the whole built ford tough with chevy stuff

mike i believe doing it yourself though takes the fag factor away... having someone else do it adds to the fag factor.

94svtcobra
04-07-2010, 11:45 PM
not when its professionally done and is a supercharged v8 killer

94svtcobra
04-07-2010, 11:48 PM
and yes, puttin a ls1 engine into a mustang is still gay

somethingclever
04-08-2010, 07:18 AM
put a ls1 with a 6spd in it and never look back..

Cam and full exhaust you can be at 425rwhp add a set of used z06 heads (300 bucks) and you will be around 450rwhp or so.. Add a 150shot of NX and boom your around 550



Since the poster is looking for bang for the buck I'm going to go out on a limb and say one could do more with a Ford mill for the same money as an LS1 engine swap.

scott5
04-09-2010, 06:16 PM
Since the poster is looking for bang for the buck I'm going to go out on a limb and say one could do more with a Ford mill for the same money as an LS1 engine swap.

its actually easier to put an lsx motor into my notch than it would be to put a ford motor into it.. And if you want to compare Hp to cost(which i thought the OP was doing) the lsx is far better in that aspect. to get 400rwhp out of an older 302/351 is going to cost alot more than a ls1.. my buddy just got a complete shortblock for 300 bucks including front accs. Add price for a set of ls1 heads 300 bucks, carb intake 150 bucks, carb(depends on what you get) and depending on what tranny, i have seen autos go for 500 bucks and t-56s 800 and your good to go.

scott5
04-09-2010, 06:18 PM
shush up scott, only fags do the whole built ford tough with chevy stuff

but they are the fast ones:behindsofa:

and getting 25mpg with 400rwhp with the ac on and 4.11s out back and running low 11s isnt too shabby in my book

scott5
04-09-2010, 06:24 PM
if money is an issue, get a nice used t-5 300 to 600 bucks and a running stock 302 - i have seen some sell for 300 bucks complete and put it in, go carb and get all the bugs worked out and then go from there.

police4.6
04-09-2010, 07:44 PM
if money is an issue, get a nice used t-5 300 to 600 bucks and a running stock 302 - i have seen some sell for 300 bucks complete and put it in, go carb and get all the bugs worked out and then go from there.

realistically scott i am probably gonna go that route.. maybe a 351 down the road.. we'lll see.

2001GTTT
04-09-2010, 07:52 PM
put a ls1 with a 6spd in it and never look back..

Cam and full exhaust you can be at 425rwhp add a set of used z06 heads (300 bucks) and you will be around 450rwhp or so.. Add a 150shot of NX and boom your around 550

dont do this.....gay.

scott5
04-09-2010, 09:31 PM
dont do this..... its too fast for clark.

fixed:spy:

scott5
04-09-2010, 09:32 PM
realistically scott i am probably gonna go that route.. maybe a 351 down the road.. we'lll see.

whats the final goal for the car if you get it?

2001GTTT
04-09-2010, 09:38 PM
fixed:spy:

lol it is too fast, i dont have a mullet big enough to flow out of the t -tops

somethingclever
04-10-2010, 09:30 AM
its actually easier to put an lsx motor into my notch than it would be to put a ford motor into it.. And if you want to compare Hp to cost(which i thought the OP was doing) the lsx is far better in that aspect. to get 400rwhp out of an older 302/351 is going to cost alot more than a ls1.. my buddy just got a complete shortblock for 300 bucks including front accs. Add price for a set of ls1 heads 300 bucks, carb intake 150 bucks, carb(depends on what you get) and depending on what tranny, i have seen autos go for 500 bucks and t-56s 800 and your good to go.

Does anyone make headers for an LS1 engine in a ford mustang? How much are they?

Does anyone make motor mounts for an LS1 engine in a ford mustang? How much are they?

How about radiators? Is the stock ford inlet/outlet location correct?

Here's a buildup I posted on SCS which you've seen....certainly not 400rwhp but add 50 cubes and you're there using stock k-member, mounts, Ford headers....etc.

http://www.steelcitystangs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18446


(PS...the topend is all brand-new...not used parts for good prices)

scott5
04-10-2010, 06:35 PM
But is that setup that put those numbers using stock exhaust parts?

Yea they make headers you actually could use BBK or MAC Lts for a mustang and just weld on the chevy flanges (easy and alot of people do it) or buy a set of Dynatech 1 7/8s Lts($500). and yea they do make motor mounts for them and they are 60 bucks. I have seen setups use the stock rad and it works out for them.. And those ls1 heads are brand new.. Heck you can get L92 head for 699 and they flow 300cfm right out of the box.. Im not trying to start an arguement here.. Just having alil fun throwing out the lsx swap cause im gna to be doing one..

And those pro comp heads rarely come if ever come ready to go out of the box, so if your not good with machining a head add the cost of that into it(and they milled the head, but didnt say the cost of that).. That parker intake, cheapest one i have found is 180 bucks so i dont know where they got there's but that the cheapest i could find.. Prcocomp gasket set is 45 bucks on all the websites that i seen.. And the carb was used..

i have weighed the facts and prices and building a lsx motor is more suitable for the power to cost ratio, for what i am doing and thats what i thought the OP was after power to cost ratio..

And like i stated before i put that in there as a joke, cause i like messing around with everyone about the ls motor in a mustang, but its getting more popular everyday

somethingclever
04-10-2010, 09:28 PM
no argument here...just trying to get a real evaluation of your claim that it's somehow easier to put a chevy mill in a ford than a ford in a ford.



When looking for bang for the buck, one needs to consider all the costs associated with a swap....

$500 for chevy headers in a ford is tough to swallow when used ford headers flood the market for less than half that (then add in motor mounts)....

However, the engine itself has excellent potential, as proven time and time again. I know nothing about the cost of LS1 parts so I'm glad you shared some info there...it's alot cheaper than I expected.

Is that price of the L92 head for 1 or two? Complete or bare?

scott5
04-11-2010, 05:56 PM
no argument here...just trying to get a real evaluation of your claim that it's somehow easier to put a chevy mill in a ford than a ford in a ford.


Is that price of the L92 head for 1 or two? Complete or bare?

ok no problem.. just didnt want ya to read into it different.. i didnt mean to say easier/ more like just as easy when i am already starting with a 4cyl car and it needs everything changed out anyways..

That is for 2 assembled heads from gm performance parts. i think its add 100 bucks to get better springs than what comes on them. I will have as much money into the lsx car and get around 550-600rwhp as i would in a sbf to make 400-450rwhp

police4.6
04-11-2010, 06:30 PM
i am shooting for like 300 to the wheels just a fun car to drive in the summer and that i can beat up on the local ricers

scott5
04-11-2010, 06:44 PM
i am shooting for like 300 to the wheels just a fun car to drive in the summer and that i can beat up on the local ricers

AFM cam
Tricflow springs
forged 302 bottom end
Gt40/gt40p heads
Gt40/cobra intake
65/70mm Tb
supporting mods
and a 100 shot and you will be well within if not better than your goal and it could EASILY been driven everyday and not have to worry about anything blowing up

RUSH2112
04-13-2010, 12:58 PM
i am shooting for like 300 to the wheels just a fun car to drive in the summer and that i can beat up on the local ricers

This is what I have and I am around 300 RWHP, plus with a good tune for max HP and a "conservative" tune for a DD (all on a stock bottom end and stock tranny)

BBK Ceramic Long Tube Headers
BBK O/R H-Pipe
BBK Cold Air Intake
Flowmaster American Thunder Cat-Back
FRPP 3.73 Gears
FRPP Chrome Cobra Upper/Lower Intake
Ford B303 Cam
Edelbrock Performer Heads
70mm Edelbrock TB
75mm Pro-M MAF
#24 Ford Injectors
Crane 1.7 Rockers